NQS - 2025 Boston Open

10/01/2025 - 10/05/2025 (EDT)

203 Juvenile Girls Grp C / Free Skate

Judges' Details

203 Juvenile Girls Grp C / Free SkateTotalTotalTotal
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1Yana Oleynik, Skokie Valley SC46.5824.4022.18 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo1.700.09  0 1 0 1 0 1       1.79
22Lz2.100.16  0 1 0 1 1 1       2.26
3FSSp43.000.60  1 3 2 2 2 2       3.60
4StSq11.800.18  1 1 1 1 0 2       1.98
52F+2T3.41x0.14  1 1 1 0 0 1       3.55
62Lz+1A+2Lo+SEQ5.39x0.00  1 0 0 0 0 0       5.39
72F1.98x0.00  0 0 0 0 0 0       1.98
8CCoSp43.500.35  1 1 0 1 1 2       3.85
Total BV:22.88Total elm. score:24.40
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.503.253.753.503.254.50   3.50
Presentation1.253.503.003.503.753.504.00   3.56
Skating Skills3.753.253.503.503.753.504.25   3.56
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:22.18
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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2Jada Ng, SC of Wilmington45.1825.4420.74 1.00
#Executed
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IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9BonusPanel
Scores
12Ab1+1A+2T+SEQ5.70-0.91  -3 -3 -2 -2 -3 -3       1.005.79
22Ab1F3.30-1.65  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.002.65
3CCoSp43.50-0.09  1 -1 -1 0 0 0       3.41
43S<b1F3.78x-1.72  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.003.06
5StSq11.800.09  2 0 0 1 1 0       1.89
62Lz!+2T!3.74x-0.53  -2 -2 -3 -3 -2 -3       3.21
72Lz!!2.31x-0.26  -1 -2 -1 -2 -1 -1       2.05
8FSSp43.000.38  1 2 0 1 2 1       3.38
Total BV:27.13Total elm. score:25.44
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.502.503.753.253.253.50   3.38
Presentation1.253.002.503.503.253.003.00   3.06
Skating Skills3.753.253.253.753.503.503.25   3.38
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:20.74
Deductions-1.00
Falls:-1.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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3Alice Tang, SC of New York44.3123.1321.18 0.00
#Executed
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IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12A<<<<1.10-0.44  -4 -3 -4 -4 -4 -4       0.66
22Lz2.100.00  0 1 0 0 0 0       2.10
3CCoSp43.500.53  1 1 2 1 2 2       4.03
4StSq11.800.05  0 1 0 0 -2 1       1.85
52F+2Lo3.85x0.00  0 0 0 0 -1 0       3.85
62Lz+1A+2Lo+SEQ5.39x0.00  0 -2 0 0 0 0       5.39
72F1.98x0.05  0 1 0 0 0 1       2.03
8FCSp32.800.42  1 2 1 1 2 2       3.22
Total BV:22.52Total elm. score:23.13
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.003.253.503.253.253.75   3.31
Presentation1.253.003.003.253.503.503.50   3.31
Skating Skills3.753.253.003.503.503.753.50   3.44
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:21.18
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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4Harper Beaudry, SC of Boston42.6021.7721.33 0.50
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo1.700.09  0 1 0 1 0 1       1.79
22F+2T<F2.84-0.90  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.94
3StSq11.800.00  0 0 0 1 0 0       1.80
4CCoSp43.500.35  1 1 1 1 2 1       3.85
52Lz+2T+1A+SEQ4.95x0.05  0 0 0 1 0 1       5.00
62Lz2.31x0.16  0 1 0 1 1 1       2.47
72F1.98x0.00  0 0 -1 0 0 0       1.98
8SSp42.500.44  1 1 2 2 2 2       2.94
Total BV:21.58Total elm. score:21.77
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.753.252.503.503.504.00   3.25
Presentation1.252.753.002.503.754.003.75   3.31
Skating Skills3.753.003.503.003.753.753.75   3.50
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:21.33
Deductions-0.50
Falls:-0.50
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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5Michiru Bonnar, SC of Boston41.1119.1321.98 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo1.700.00  0 1 0 0 0 0       1.70
22Lz!+1A+2Lo<+SEQ<4.56-0.68  -4 -3 -4 -3 -3 -3       3.88
3CCoSp33.000.23  1 0 1 0 1 1       3.23
42Lz!!2.31x-0.32  -1 -2 -2 -2 -1 -1       1.99
52F+2T3.41x-0.50  -3 -3 -3 -3 -2 -2       2.91
6StSqB1.500.19  1 2 1 2 0 1       1.69
72T1.43x-0.23  -3 -2 -2 -1 -2 -1       1.20
8FSSp22.300.23  1 1 1 1 1 1       2.53
Total BV:20.21Total elm. score:19.13
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.003.503.503.502.754.00   3.38
Presentation1.252.503.503.253.753.003.50   3.31
Skating Skills3.753.003.753.503.753.753.50   3.63
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:21.98
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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6Alexandra Dangelo, SC of Boston40.6619.4821.18 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo1.700.17  1 2 1 1 0 1       1.87
22F+1A+2Lo+SEQ4.600.00  0 0 0 0 0 0       4.60
3FSSp32.600.13  0 1 -1 1 0 1       2.73
4StSq11.800.09  0 1 0 1 0 1       1.89
52Lz!q+2T<<3.45x-0.89  -4 -4 -3 -4 -5 -5       2.56
62F<<1.58x-0.40  -2 -3 -3 -3 -5 -2       1.18
72Lze<<1.39x-0.50  -4 -3 -4 -4 -4 -5       0.89
8FCCoSp43.500.26  1 0 -1 1 1 1       3.76
Total BV:20.62Total elm. score:19.48
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.003.253.503.753.003.50   3.31
Presentation1.253.003.253.253.503.253.50   3.31
Skating Skills3.752.753.503.253.503.503.75   3.44
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:21.18
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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7Zarrah Cange, Washington FSC40.4320.1820.25 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12F+1A+2T+SEQ4.200.00  1 -1 0 0 0 0       4.20
22Lz+2T3.40-0.11  0 -1 -1 0 -1 0       3.29
3SSp21.600.16  1 1 0 1 1 1       1.76
42Lo1.700.00  0 0 -1 0 0 0       1.70
5StSq11.800.09  1 0 0 0 1 1       1.89
62Lz2.31x0.05  1 0 -1 0 0 1       2.36
72F1.98x0.00  0 0 -1 0 0 0       1.98
8CCoSp33.000.00  0 0 -1 0 0 0       3.00
Total BV:19.99Total elm. score:20.18
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.252.753.253.503.503.50   3.38
Presentation1.253.002.502.753.253.253.50   3.06
Skating Skills3.753.003.003.253.253.753.50   3.25
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:20.25
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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8Arrietty Liu, SC of New York39.1217.7721.35 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo1.700.00  1 1 0 1 0 1       0.00
22Lz2.100.00  0 -1 -1 0 0 0       0.00
3SSp42.500.00  1 2 1 1 2 2       0.00
42F+2T3.100.00  -2 -3 -1 -2 -3 -2       0.00
52Lz+2T3.74x0.00  -1 -2 -1 -1 -2 -1       0.00
6StSqB1.500.00  1 -1 0 1 1 1       0.00
72F*+1A*+SEQ+REP*0.00x0.00  - - - - - -       0.00
8CCoSp33.000.00  1 0 1 1 0 1       0.00
Total BV:17.64Total elm. score:0.00
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.002.503.503.253.004.00   3.19
Presentation1.253.003.003.253.503.754.25   3.38
Skating Skills3.753.253.503.253.753.503.75   3.50
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:21.35
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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9Ella Kim, Ice House Of New Jersey FSC36.8117.5720.24 1.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
1StSq11.800.18  0 1 1 1 1 1       1.98
22Lo1.700.00  0 0 0 0 0 1       1.70
32F<F1.44-0.72  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.72
42Lz<+1A+1A+SEQ<4.27x-0.34  -2 -2 -2 -3 -2 -2       3.93
52F<+2Lo<<F2.13x-0.72  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.41
6CCoSp43.500.35  1 2 0 1 1 1       3.85
72Lz<<<<0.66x-0.20  -4 -3 -3 -3 -3 -4       0.46
8FCSp43.200.32  1 1 1 1 1 1       3.52
Total BV:18.70Total elm. score:17.57
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.503.253.253.503.503.25   3.31
Presentation1.252.253.253.253.253.003.00   3.13
Skating Skills3.752.253.503.253.503.253.00   3.25
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:20.24
Deductions-1.00
Falls:-1.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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10Marin Katsarelis, Washington FSC35.7617.6919.07 1.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
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GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12F1.800.14  1 1 0 1 1 0       1.94
22A<<F1.10-0.55  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.55
32Lz2.10-0.11  0 -2 0 0 -1 -1       1.99
4FSSp43.000.68  2 3 2 2 3 1       3.68
5StSq11.80-0.09  1 -2 0 0 -1 -1       1.71
62F+REPF1.39x-0.90  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.49
72Lz+1A+2T+SEQ4.95x-0.05  0 -1 0 0 0 -1       4.90
8CCoSp4VnU2.63-0.20  -1 -1 -1 0 0 -1       2.43
Total BV:18.77Total elm. score:17.69
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.753.003.003.503.503.25   3.19
Presentation1.252.752.252.753.753.252.75   2.88
Skating Skills3.752.752.753.004.003.503.00   3.06
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:19.07
Deductions-1.00
Falls:-1.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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11Isabella Valentino, Miami FSC35.5017.3018.70 0.50
#Executed
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GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lz+1Eu+2F4.40-0.21  -1 -1 -1 0 -1 -1       4.19
21A1.10-0.06  0 -1 0 -1 -1 0       1.04
3CCoSp22.500.13  0 1 0 1 0 1       2.63
42Lo1.87x-0.17  -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1       1.70
52LzF2.31x-1.05  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.26
62Fe+2Lo<<3.08x-0.58  -4 -4 -4 -4 -4 -5       2.50
7StSq11.800.00  1 -1 -1 1 0 0       1.80
8FSSp22.30-0.12  0 0 -1 0 -1 -1       2.18
Total BV:19.36Total elm. score:17.30
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.253.002.503.253.503.253.25   3.19
Presentation1.252.752.253.003.253.503.50   3.13
Skating Skills3.752.752.502.753.003.003.00   2.88
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:18.70
Deductions-0.50
Falls:-0.50
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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12Bella Iucolino, SC of Wilmington35.1717.0618.61 0.50
#Executed
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Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
1FSSp32.600.33  1 1 1 1 2 2       2.93
22S1.30-0.49  -4 -4 -3 -4 -2 -4       0.81
32S+2Lo3.00-0.38  -2 -3 -2 -2 -3 -1       2.62
4StSq11.800.09  1 1 -1 0 0 1       1.89
52Lz<F1.85x-0.84  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       1.01
62F<<1.58x-0.43  -3 -3 -3 -3 -4 -2       1.15
72Lo<+1A+1A+SEQ<3.92x-0.27  -2 -2 0 -2 -2 -3       3.65
8CCoSp33.000.00  0 1 -1 0 0 0       3.00
Total BV:19.05Total elm. score:17.06
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.252.753.003.003.003.50   2.94
Presentation1.252.002.502.753.253.503.25   2.94
Skating Skills3.752.253.002.753.253.503.00   3.00
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:18.61
Deductions-0.50
Falls:-0.50
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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13Shiraz Rafael Tusia-Cohen, SC of New York34.2416.5917.65 0.00
#Executed
Elements
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GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lzq+1A+SEQq3.20-0.42  -2 -2 -1 -2 -2 -2       2.78
22Fqq1.80-0.36  -2 -2 -1 -2 -2 -2       1.44
31Lz0.60-0.09  -2 -2 -1 -1 -1 -2       0.51
4LSp42.70-0.14  -1 0 -1 -1 0 0       2.56
5StSqB1.500.04  0 0 0 1 1 0       1.54
62S1.43x0.00  0 0 0 0 0 0       1.43
72F<+1Eu+2S<3.56x-0.29  -2 -2 -2 -2 -2 -2       3.27
8CCoSp43.50-0.44  -2 -1 -2 0 -1 -1       3.06
Total BV:18.29Total elm. score:16.59
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.502.253.003.753.003.00   2.88
Presentation1.252.252.502.503.503.502.75   2.81
Skating Skills3.752.502.502.753.503.252.75   2.81
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:17.65
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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14Lillian Hunt, Elite Edge SC33.3415.9917.35 0.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
11A1.100.03  0 1 0 1 0 0       1.13
22S+2T2.600.00  0 1 0 0 0 0       2.60
32T+1A+1T+SEQ2.800.00  0 1 0 0 0 0       2.80
4SSp32.100.26  0 2 2 1 1 1       2.36
52Lo1.87x0.09  1 1 0 0 0 1       1.96
6StSq11.80-0.14  0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1       1.66
72S1.43x0.00  0 0 0 0 0 0       1.43
8CCoSp12.000.05  1 0 -1 1 0 0       2.05
Total BV:15.70Total elm. score:15.99
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.502.503.253.003.252.75   2.88
Presentation1.252.252.253.253.253.002.50   2.75
Skating Skills3.752.252.503.253.252.752.50   2.75
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:17.35
Deductions-0.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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15Vivian Harutunyan, SC of New York31.6215.2516.87 0.50
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lz<+SEQ+1A**1.68-0.71  -4 -3 -5 -4 -4 -5       0.97
22F+1Eu+2S3.60-0.41  -2 -3 -1 -3 -2 -2       3.19
3FCSp32.80-0.14  -1 1 -1 0 -1 0       2.66
4StSqB1.500.00  0 0 -2 0 0 0       1.50
52F1.98x-0.18  -1 -1 -1 0 -1 -1       1.80
62Lz<<F0.66x-0.30  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.36
72S1.43x-0.16  -1 -2 -1 -1 -2 -1       1.27
8CCoSp43.500.00  0 0 -1 0 0 0       3.50
Total BV:17.15Total elm. score:15.25
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.502.252.253.252.503.00   2.56
Presentation1.252.252.252.253.002.752.75   2.50
Skating Skills3.752.252.752.752.753.003.00   2.81
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:16.87
Deductions-0.50
Falls:-0.50
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

203 Juvenile Girls Grp C / Free SkateTotalTotalTotal
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16Lola Day, SC of Boston26.4910.2918.20 2.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12Lo<<F0.50-0.25  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.25
22Lze<<Fe0.48-0.24  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.24
3FSSp43.000.60  2 2 2 3 2 2       3.60
42F<<F0.50-0.25  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.25
52Lo<+REPF1.05x-0.68  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.37
6StSq11.800.18  1 1 0 1 2 1       1.98
72S<<**0.00x0.00  - - - - - -       0.00
8CCoSp33.000.60  1 2 2 2 3 2       3.60
Total BV:10.33Total elm. score:10.29
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.753.003.003.503.003.50   3.13
Presentation1.252.003.252.502.753.503.50   3.00
Skating Skills3.752.502.252.753.503.502.50   2.81
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:18.20
Deductions-2.00
Falls:-2.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

203 Juvenile Girls Grp C / Free SkateTotalTotalTotal
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17Maryann Martin, Tampa Bay SC25.7911.4815.31 1.00
#Executed
Elements
IBase
Value
GOE  J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9Panel
Scores
12F<F1.44-0.72  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.72
2CCoSp22.500.00  0 0 0 0 0 0       2.50
32Lo<<<<0.50-0.18  -3 -4 -3 -4 -3 -4       0.32
4StSqB1.50-0.15  0 -2 -2 -1 0 -1       1.35
52F<+1Lo<2.13x-0.40  -2 -3 -2 -3 -3 -3       1.73
61Lz+1A+1Lo+SEQ2.42x-0.06  -1 -1 0 0 0 -5       2.36
72SF1.43x-0.65  -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5       0.78
8SSp21.600.12  0 1 0 1 1 1       1.72
Total BV:13.52Total elm. score:11.48
Program ComponentsFactor
Composition1.252.252.502.752.752.752.75   2.69
Presentation1.252.253.002.502.753.253.00   2.81
Skating Skills3.752.002.252.252.252.502.25   2.25
General Component Factor:1.0Total factored comp. score:15.31
Deductions-1.00
Falls:-1.00
Majority deductions J1 J2 J3 J4 J5 J6 J7 J8 J9 REF

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